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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2016 8:58:23 GMT -5
Ryan Callahan
2015/2016: 0.85 fppg (73 games) Tier 3
2014/2015: 1.46 fppg (77 games) Tier 2
2013/2014: 1.30 fppg (65 games) Tier 2
2012/2013: 1.73 fppg (45 games) Tier 1
1.29 fppg for 336.82 points in 260 games.
Based off his current production (0.85 fppg, 1.5M - 2.0 M range) and his 2+ seasons producing at a higher tier, TBL offer 2 years @ 2.5M
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2016 9:11:45 GMT -5
Yep, beautiful example of bridge contract.
I approve.
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Post by San Jose Sharks (Alex/Taco) on Sept 17, 2016 9:21:58 GMT -5
I approve, 2-0
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Post by Jim Rutherford/Pens GM on Sept 17, 2016 9:41:25 GMT -5
Yeah I think it's good. 3-0
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Post by chris - Hartford Whalers on Sept 17, 2016 9:58:18 GMT -5
seems too low. A player has one bad year and loses 2/3 of his consistent value?
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Post by San Jose Sharks (Alex/Taco) on Sept 17, 2016 10:38:28 GMT -5
Based on fpts/game from current season, offer a salary within the range
NOTE: If the player has 2+ full seasons where he was in a higher TIER production, the salary range MUST be one step higher. If the player has 2+ full seasons where he had lower TIER production, the salary range MAY be one step lower.
He was higher tiers before that season, so he's over paying his worth based on last season. It works out in the end.
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Post by JetsGM (Jacob) on Sept 17, 2016 10:42:33 GMT -5
He isn't overpaying, point 4 covers that:
4. Based on fpts/game from current season, offer a salary within the range
NOTE: If the player has 2+ full seasons where he was in a higher TIER production, the salary range MUST be one step higher. If the player has 2+ full seasons where he had lower TIER production, the salary range MAY be one step lower.
I'm going to give it a bit of thought, but these contracts are setting precedence so need to be strict. I agree with Chris that it's low, but by 500K, as based on his previous production, I think he should max the higher salary range out (2M-3M).
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Post by chris - Hartford Whalers on Sept 17, 2016 10:45:43 GMT -5
My opinion is the average production should be a better indicator then previous season. Imagine if Pitt didn't fire their coach and sid ended up with a .8 ppg year or worse and gets a new 2year deal. Obv Callahan is no sid.
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Post by San Jose Sharks (Alex/Taco) on Sept 17, 2016 11:01:02 GMT -5
Maybe change the rules to the salary range has to be the same difference between the change in tiers over the years. So Callahan went from tier 1 to tier 3, so that's two difference, so the salary range has to go up twice the level of the previous years fppg
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Post by San Jose Sharks (Alex/Taco) on Sept 17, 2016 11:02:31 GMT -5
That would put Callahan into the 3m-4m range instead, but it could work the other way when a player has a break out year too.
Just putting the idea out there, I'm alright if this doesn't happen, I like the rules as they are and still think its a fair price since hes not going to really improve at this point in the career.
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Post by JetsGM (Jacob) on Sept 17, 2016 11:23:02 GMT -5
I agree and disagree. I don't like putting more weight in average over previous season just because the average does not take into account steep declines (which happen often enough), which is why most recent year gets the most weight in this system.
However, I do agree with the edge case provided, as well as looking at this type of decline I think we need a secondary stipulation for that note (maybe a 3rd).
"If the player has dropped by more than 4 production salary ranges, they are only eligible for a 1-year bridge contract.
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As Sharks stated, it has to go up 2 salary ranges if he drops from a higher tier, however he has only dropped from tier 1 in one previous season not 2.
I don't want to have too many stipulations (there's a lot already), but I think this is another edge case that should be covered.
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Post by Smashville / PredsGM on Sept 17, 2016 14:04:51 GMT -5
Too low for me. Callahan has proven that he is a valuable fantasy player over the past 4 years. Having one average season should not diminish his value as much as you have above.
The Lightning had several injuries last season and Callahan was forced to play with Filpulla and Pacquette in a defensive role. I expect Callahan to return to the to at least the 1.1 range again.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2016 18:13:40 GMT -5
Isnt his FP/G 1 in 2015/16, not .85?
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Post by chris - Hartford Whalers on Sept 17, 2016 18:19:17 GMT -5
I think it was 1ppg and the .85 is their forcast. If that's the case his salary would be like 4m and I would withdraw my arguments at this point.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2016 21:16:59 GMT -5
of dear.
Tampa's GM gave us wrong numbers, Callahans 2015 - 2016 fppg was 1.0 !!
I change my vote to NO !
and Tampa, next time check the numbers.
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Post by JetsGM (Jacob) on Sept 19, 2016 11:00:14 GMT -5
Bid is void due to wrong 15/16 #s given. I won't count it as an attempt (learning phase).
Tampa please re-post with updated numbers and more appropriate bid.
Thanks.
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