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Post by chris - Hartford Whalers on Sept 18, 2016 9:08:18 GMT -5
<Hampus Lindholm> 2015/2016: .88 fpts/game (80 games) Tier 3 2014/2015: .81 fpts/game (78 games) Tier 3 2013/2014: .73/game (78 games) Depth 2012/2013: fpts/game (# games) Did not play He does not fall into any of the bridge categories We offer a 4 year deal at 2m a season is max of the .8 -.89 fpts/game metric
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Post by Jim Rutherford/Pens GM on Sept 18, 2016 9:25:57 GMT -5
Wow! That's a steal, but everything checks out.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2016 14:38:16 GMT -5
Correct data, OK offer.
Vote for approve, 2-0
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Post by Devils GM(Colin) on Sept 18, 2016 14:48:12 GMT -5
Jacob did say there is a possible raise for player potential, so let him have the final call.
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Post by JetsGM (Jacob) on Sept 18, 2016 15:04:56 GMT -5
It's up to the league. Personally, considering his recent year was same as Trouba and it's an extra year, I'd expect at least 2.5 (average is lower so 500K less than what I would offer Trouba for 4 years).
I mentioned it in the group chat, but I'll say it here. The salary ranges are guidelines not rules, so I'd say they are more useful for determining short term contracts. Once you get to long term, you are allowed to ask for more based on potential so could go up a range or two. That's up to individual GMs to decide.
I am trying to vote less and see how GMs vote, but if you guys prefer me voting more to help clarify things no problem.
I have a few small changes to make to re-signs will try to get them up tonight
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Post by Smashville / PredsGM on Sept 18, 2016 15:12:14 GMT -5
2-1, Decline
I would use Trouba as a comparable for this instance, 3 x.2.5
It's really hard to agree on a long term small salary contract for a player with so much potential.
You have used the guidelines correctly but factored in nothing for potential over a 4 year span, if you're going off a 4 year contract I'd be looking at something about $3m minimum
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2016 15:54:31 GMT -5
I'm OK with it. Massive steal on Buffalo's part.
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Post by San Jose Sharks (Alex/Taco) on Sept 18, 2016 18:43:08 GMT -5
I approve, the numbers from previous years back up the contract offer. I like it
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Post by Jim Rutherford/Pens GM on Sept 18, 2016 18:44:33 GMT -5
I think for predicting potential we can use fantrax projected stats. I don't mean adhere to it strictly, but just something else to refer to...
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Post by Devils GM(Colin) on Sept 18, 2016 20:48:51 GMT -5
Except they don't include hits/blocks. I don't think we can rely on predictions. My opinion anyway. I won't stand in the way of this deal as long as you guys accept my proposed Reilly restructure haha
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Post by JetsGM (Jacob) on Sept 19, 2016 11:03:47 GMT -5
Contract finalized.
Tough to use fantrax projections since next season re-sign period will be in mid-July, which is well before Fantrax releases projections for the next season. As long as teams are properly explaining why they are projecting future growth, I have no issues with teams weighing value on a personal level, it's why the entire league is allowed to vote. If I start seeing it becoming excessive, then I will create a new rubric that is much more strictly laid out.
I should have clarified better that the salary ranges are guidelines and more focused on shorter term than longer term. I will add clarifications to that later today.
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